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Blog Entry# 6021959
Posted: Apr 07 (10:03)

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Apr 07 (10:03)   20173/Rani Kamalapati (Habibganj) - Rewa Vande Bharat Express | BPL/Bhopal Junction (6 PFs)
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Apr 07 (14:50)
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The study of revenue vs expense of running of premium trains for 10 months
1. Vande Bharat 75cr 31cr
2. Benguluru Raj 68cr 143cr ( is this the revenue generated by boarding of travelkers from Bhopal to New Delhi?)
3. SHATABDI 35cr 43cr.
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Why is the expenditure more for VB is it due to high powered traction motors and power consumption?
Revenue of Rajdhani is it so that they are more number of travelers in Rajdhani then Shatabdi / VB this need better clarification and how revenue is calculated.

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Operational Cost of VB mentioned here is way more, double of Shatabdi Express, which I think is little misdirected as Shatabdi uses Diesel in both EOGs even if it runs on HOG. VB also uses regenerative breaking system, automatic doors, better aerodynamics how can just because it is multiple unit train set it operating cost shot double than that of Shatabdi, whereas as far as Train Sets are considered they are supposed to be more energy efficient thus less costly in operation.

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correct than even if VB is 100% occupied on daily basis then also it will always be a loss making because RKMP-NZM VB any day has more than 60% occupancy and 90-100% occupied on weekend, if that is generating low revenue then hardly it will generate 30-40% more even it runs pack daily.

Also I believe Rajdhani data presented here is end to end not Bhopal-Delhi-Bhopal as it doesn't have that much seat quota to get this much revenue.

So overall this news is not making sense to me, anyways this is printed in Newspaper of Bhopal who are infamous to print bogous fake and misleading Railway news.

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Apr 07 (16:02)
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Rajdhani has a quota of 75 berths and the income will be 4cr even if another 75 book in tatkal or board due to more deboarding then rhe quota the income will not cross 10cr. It may be revenue for total run. For premium trains they need to exclude catering charge for revenue calculation.
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Apr 07 (16:17)
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Comparison of the two decades old Satabdhi btw Ndls and Bhopal, Four decade old Bengaluru Rajdhani with one year old VB (NDLS - Bhopal I presume), and comparing economics is too premature. The operational cost of VB is double of Satabdhi, which is incorrect. Again, rajdhani express is more revenue generating as it's a long distance train. Benefits from VBs are (1) Around 102 VB services added 1 lakh AC seats for Indian travellers. (2) Instead of travelling overnight, one can return by night or reach by afternoon, this saves hotel stay for biz travellers (3) VB trains on an average occupancy of even at 70 percent will be a good start. (4) We are used to travel with waiting lists, booking 3 months before train travel, etc and VB gives an option to book with confirmation now for next day travel in most sectors (5) Suppose another 150 VB...
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services are introduced, which will eliminate waitlist at least for medium distance travel by March 2025. (6) Indian Railways says they lose 55 percent in passenger travel as per 2017-18 data, but passenger services are giving revenue of 80000 crores in current financial year 2024-25, compared to 50,000 crores in 2017-18, and obviously the losses from passenger services are down from 50,000 crores in 2017-18 to around 20,000 crores in current financial year. (7) Introduction of VBs definitely decreased the stress on the long distance trains mainly in AC 2 and 3 tier classes and made them available for long distance travellers

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Apr 07 (16:52)
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I doubt on the data representing operational cost of VB . Yes , VB 1.0 was tagged as less energy efficient and technology was immediately replaced in the version 2.0.
Train sets are considered more energy efficient and are becoming norm of the rail travel around the world.
Also , IR would have priced ticket according to the energy consumption of the train set .. but VB costs only 20% more than the Shatabdi !
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is required to verified , a detail break up would help !
IR is not fool to introduce DMUs MEMUs Vande Metros train sets for low cost operations ...

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