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Apr 15 2015 (13:14)   07324XXX/Hubballi - Chennai Egmore SpecialFare Special | VSG/Vasco-da-Gama (3 PFs)
 
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this train can extend up to VASCO-DA-GAMA its more useful
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If SR is creating problems for this train, ask SR to run this train instead of SWR. Automatically PF issues, time slot and speed every thing will become alright.
This train can go to MS if PF at MAS is a problem. In MS, train can be pushed out within 15-20 minutes. Even, this can run upto Villupuram VM, which is just 3 hours journey from MS. VM yard can coolly accommodate this train.
TT should be something like this:
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1630, MS 1945, RU 2245, GTL 0500, BAY 0600, UBL 1000. Return: UBL 1730, BAY 2130, GTL 2230, RU 0400, MS 0730, VM 1100.

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4 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (15:06)
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Re# 1429471-17              
Till they build another terminal, why can't SR send some trains to Villupuram or Puducherry, where facilities are lying idle?
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4 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (16:55)
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Re# 1429471-22              
UBL trains of SWR can go upto VM and return back via MS to UBL. All maint will be at UBL only. Unable to understand your point, why VM cannot hold this train for 3-5 hours and do a general cleaning and send back?
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5 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:00)
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Re# 1429471-28              
If it should be PDY, let it be there. Still, it is better, as people get an additional train between chennai to PDY. Instead of travelling in buses, they can use this.
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Apr 30 2015 (17:04)
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Re# 1429471-29              
Anything is OK. But timings from Chennai to Hubli should be convenient. I am not clear, whether Chengalpet have cleaning facilities, etc.
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3 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:17)
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Re# 1429471-33              
This UBL-MAS is running via GTL, RU and not via KPD. So, going to VLR does not arise. Again, for UBL to Vellore, you have tri-weekly PDY Chalukya (though at ghose hours, you will get town bus nos. 1 & 2 to vellore) apart from VSG-MAS weekly and UBL-MAS weekly all via YPR.
My point is that UBL-MAS via RU should be regularised as UBL-MS or further to CGL/VM/PDY with proper 14-15 hours journey time, as a ONT between Chennai-Hubli.
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Apr 30 2015 (17:20)
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Re# 1429471-34              
Which MAS-UBL? via YPR? If you are talking about this, it is in WL because of seat quota arrangement by SWR. People use this train for a slightly better journey from MAS-SBC sector and again, acts as addl train between YPR-UBL. Can you collect data for MAS to beyond YPR, say TK or Birur or Davanagere? Will be minimal. If the TT is revised with start frm MAS at 2200, then patronage will pickup.
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2 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:29)
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Re# 1429471-37              
Yes. I am right. You can book tickets for peak summer season May. Lot of seats available. So, what kind of demand you expect in lean season with this kind of TT?
It's cousin MAS-VSG is showing WL because UBL is in PQWL in this train.
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2 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:44)
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Re# 1429471-40              
So, this train will not run any further,citing low patronage. Rake may be used to run some other train with some other useless TT.
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2 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:50)
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Re# 1429471-43               Past Edits
For a 3-4 hour general cleanup, what are the facilities reqd? If nothing is there at VM or PDY, how trains to Mangalore, CAPE, Delhi, Howrah, Kharagpur etc are operated from VM/ PDY?
If nothing is there at PDY, how Chalukya is getting cleaned on alternate days?
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Apr 30 2015 (17:55)
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Re# 1429471-44              
If it is a regular train, one can confidently plan and travel. Every now and then, if I have to see the rly press release before planning, definitely, I would not prefer such arrangements, even if such trains run at cnvenient timings. Public should not be at the mercy of rlys.
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2 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:58)
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Re# 1429471-47              
If PDY can handle Chalukya which runs for 1500 Kms before reaching PDY thrice a week, why can't PDY handle UBL train which would run for less than 850 Kms before reaching PDY. Definitely, maint requirements of such UBL train would be less than Chalukya.
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2 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (18:05)
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Re# 1429471-50              
Sourav, I am asking you, whether VM or PDY can handle 3-4 hour cleanup for a UBL-VM/ PDY on a regular basis? I am not asking any big favour for this SWR train. Let us not get into too many technicalities of primary maint, secondary maint, pit line, etc.
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Apr 30 2015 (18:09)
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Re# 1429471-51              
SR and SWR are getting free run of a CR train, by using Chalukya rakes. SWR is happy as it has distrubed their own zone people,by slowing down this train.
Why SR or SWR is not running any train (don't say weekly via Salem)? People are breaking their backs in the Krishnagiri-TV Malai road, which is the worst road I have ever seen in my life.
But, coming to the point, why SR can't give some water and clean up the train at VM or PDY for this UBL train?
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (18:29)
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Excellent reply. I never expected such a reason.
Then how SR trains are maintained? Assuming the efficiency levels to be correct, will they become more inefficient if they work on SWR train?
Citing this inefficiency, can we write to CR to terminate Chalukyas at YPR itself and not to send their trains to TEN and PDY?
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3 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (18:37)
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Re# 1429471-58              
Let us not get into problems, for which we cannot propose any solutions. This discussion is about timing/ TT of a UBL-MAS spl and landed somewhere else. Still, I am not convinced about why this UBL train cannot start from MS or go any other nearby stn for cleanup and return?
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (19:02)
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Re# 1429471-61              
Sorry, if I had hurt you emotionally. Let us leave it at this point.
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Mar 31 2015 (08:05)   GR/Kalaburagi Junction (Gulbarga) (4 PFs)
 
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Gulbarga Pit Line getting ready expect inauguration in 15 days... Currently they are laying rails on the pit line...
Also we can expect Gulbarga Hyderabad announcement soon :-)
Plus 22133 termination at Gulbarga on the cards ....
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Apr 29 2015 (17:49)
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If you analyse the TT of Udyan, its crawling starts after GTL only. It runs at decent speed till GTL. I do not understand the logic of holding and delaying this train for more than 3 hours in a stretch of 190 Kms and allowing other trains to overtake them. SF covers GTL-YPR in 5hr 15 min, so a normal should cover this distance in max 6 hr 30 min. But it takes 8hr 40 min.
May be SWR wants to use this slot for daily passengers from DMM/ HUP to SBC. Otherwise, there is no reason for this much slack.
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Apr 30 2015 (15:05)
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Re# 1412433-99              
Udyan even if speeded up will be made to run in its slot between DMM to SBC, for the benefit of season tkt holders.
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (15:15)
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Re# 1412433-101              
If every thing works out nicely, available slots from Mumbai can be re-arranged as follows:-
1. Make CSTM-NCJ/TVC trains which leave by 11 AM can take Udyan slot. Since they are faster and bypass Bengaluru via KJM, they will cross GTL-KJM by 7 AM and proceed further.
2. Make Udyan take 9 AM slot of LTT-UBL exp. Still it can reach SBC by 0850. One hr slack gets gets reduced.
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Make LTT-UBL take the slot of NCJ/ TVC 11 AM upto Pune.
But, if and a big IF, because NCJ/ TVC is a SR train, Udyan CR and UBL SWR trains. ????

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Apr 30 2015 (15:25)
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Re# 1412433-102              
LTT-CBE takes 32 hours, whereas return takes just 30 hours. Straightaway, 2 hr slack can be reduced. Again, just to go in and out of SBC, this train wastes another 1.5 hours.
Passes through BYPL to SBC and back twice, doing nothing. If at all we had a line at SBC for 200-300 mtrs linking YPR side to PF 1-5 side, the train could have come from YPR side and after LR, proceed to BNC side. Definitely, 2 hours can be saved. It is not an impossible task, but no one wants to pursue further. That's all.
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (16:27)
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Re# 1412433-104              
There should be a long term planning to take care of the addl traffic expected. Some alternate routes, some re-routing of trains to avoid congestion, shifting of trains which are not used by the sections to odd hour slots, laying or linking of new lines/ existing parallel lines, etc. should be thought of.
I can provide some more long term plans, which may be thought of:
1. Linking of Chintamani to Madanapalli. Will reduce congestion between DMM to YNK/ KJM to JTJ. Freight trains can take this route.
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Linking of DBP to Dabaspet. Trains from JTJ side to TK side can use without even entering Bengaluru. Already state govt is putting up a 6/ 8 lane straight road between these 2 towns. New indl area is getting developed. Rly line run somewhat parallel to this major road.
3. Linking Bidadi to Anekal : Circular rail route to Bangalore can be thought of.
4. Provide a proper station at KG Airport area: No major investment is required. Just few buildings and posting of personnel. Run trains from YPR/ YNK/ KJM to airport every 30 min. Will reduce the road traffic to a great extent.
Some more in some other blog.

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3 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (18:52)
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Re# 1412433-108              
First of all, SWR is not operating any trains to Mumbai from SBC/ YPR. All 3 are CR trains. Udyan was given away 2 years back. Now, you are saying that they do not want to see the rakes of Mumbai trains also at SBC!
If they do not want to see rakes idle, let SWR run one proper train to Mumbai from SBC/ YPR.
When 100 buses are running per day in SBC-Mumbai sector looting people (today's bus fare is Rs. 2500!), SWR is doing to nothing.
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Apr 30 2015 (12:47)   12607/Lalbagh SF Express | SBC/KSR Bengaluru City Junction (Bangalore) (10 PFs)
 
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This the level of dedication from SWR workers. Hats off To their commitment. They do this exterior cleaning daily. Seen here is lalbagh exp getting a shower. SWR's parent zone SR is no where match to SWR in cleaning. SR workers are busy in sticking posters of their union leaders in trains.
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (15:09)
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Re# 1448516-2              
Nice. They are good in cleaning. But not good for running trains to suit own zone public. This is like an exam of 5 papers (cleanliness, punctuality, user friendliness, connectivity and future planning). Only in cleanliness, they are scoring more than 90%. In all other papers, miserably failing. Some tuitions are required.
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3 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (16:55)
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Re# 1448516-6              
Lalbagh is SWR train. Then how come it's parent zone is SR? Not able to understand.
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 30, 2015

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Apr 30 2015 (17:05)
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Re# 1448516-9              
Even the coaches are marked SWR.
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Apr 21 2015 (11:06)   11311/Solapur - Hassan Express (PT) | GR/Kalaburagi Junction (Gulbarga) (4 PFs)
 
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Today 22133 Solapur-Yeshvantpur express reached Yelahanka 15 minutes before time and reached Yeshvantpur 10 minutes early :-) Amazing run for Gulbarga pax
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3 Public Posts - Tue Apr 21, 2015

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Apr 21 2015 (15:05)
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Re# 1436708-4              
On alternate days, TEN-DR Chalukya is occupying YPR PF for more than 2-1/2 hours, without any purpose (morning 0415 to 0700). SWR says that they face PF shortage at YPR/ SBC. But if a train comes, they love the train so much that they do not want to leave the train. Something seriously wrong in planning.
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4 Public Posts - Tue Apr 21, 2015

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Apr 21 2015 (16:51)
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Re# 1436708-9              
Chalukya is creating problems. If SWR is willing, they should ask/ plan for a different TT for PDY chalukya and TEN Chalukya. It is made to wait till 7 AM to take Bangalore-Mumbai pax. Why its TT is so horrible till YPR from PDY/ TEN end? Both PDY and TEN have better trains/ routes to reach Mumbai. Senseless extensions. Both SR and SWR hoodwinked CR to run a ONT train from YPR to PDY/ TEN with useless timings.
Something seriously should be done to correct anamoly.
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9 Public Posts - Thu Apr 23, 2015

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Apr 23 2015 (13:09)
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Re# 1436708-30              
Nice idea. Then, SWR can have GTL divn covering part of TS/ AP and SCR will get GR divn of KA. A kind of balancing is done. Continuity of area will be there. Main advantage would be that trains from SBC to GR/ HYB will get more priority in SBC-GTL section, since they would come under same zone.
If TPTY divn comes up, then some sort of realignments can be there within GTL and BZA divns.
However, considering the SWR's reputation in messing up the things, no one in GTL/ SCR will
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 23, 2015

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Apr 23 2015 (13:18)
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Re# 1436708-32              
GRL-RU and RU-GDR can be in new TPTY Divn. GTL in SWR if it happens can have GTL-DMM-KPD, GTL-GDG (instead of upto BAY), BAY-JRU, GTL-RC, RC-GDWL and few other proposed rly projects like Rayadurga-Tumakuru, Raichur-Koppal also. This will ensure continuity and a equalising effect also.
New GR divn under SCR can have SUR-GR-WADI-RC, GR-BIDR, SUR-BJP, Some portion of Vikarabad-Nanded line, Shahbad-Wadi new line and few other lines (I am not fully aware. Kulkarni can help).
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 23, 2015

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Apr 23 2015 (13:24)
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RU-GTL in GNT div and GDR-KPD in BZA can create continuity problems. TPTY divn can be of much help to this part of AP. Else, if they lose GTL and first available divn HQ is at GNT/ BZA may not be liked.
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1 Public Posts - Thu Apr 23, 2015

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Apr 23 2015 (13:35)
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True. Some re-alignment of zonal juristriction in SCR, SWR and CR is required. One divn at GR and one at TPTY can happen and some divisions may have to move to some other zone, with altered route juristrictions. Hope for something better.
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7 Public Posts - Thu Apr 23, 2015

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Apr 23 2015 (18:31)
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Re# 1436708-44              
In the event of GTL coming to SWR ( a remote possibility), it cannot be harmful to the region. GTL divn was in existence even before SWR is born. So, exploitation will not be that much easy. Secondly, the area under GTL divn will continue under GTL or with TPTY.
I feel GTL in SWR can be good for SWR. SWR will learn what is meant by connectivity, punctuality, running of trains, maintaining of stations other than SBC/YPR/ MYS/ UBL. Also, continuity of juristriction under same zone can help faster completion of YNK-GTL doubling and electrification, which will help all in that area.
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Apr 26 2015 (01:24)
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Re# 1436708-64              
May be some expert from SWR sitting in planning dept there.
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1 Public Posts - Sun Apr 26, 2015

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Apr 26 2015 (14:34)
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If SWR really wants to utilise GDG-SUR line, first they should complete and inaugurate Harihar-Harapanahalli-Hospet line. Then, many trains can divert via that line and go via GDG-SUR line. 2 loco reversals at UBL and GDG can also be avoided, apart from distance reduction. But, it will skip UBL and so SWR will not be ready to do this. It is not clear why GDG-SUR is taken up for doubling.
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SWR is a 12 year old baby! Shall I call it Child? Actually it should have grown to a good extent. Still in the lap of mother and father (SR and SCR) and not able to think on its own. Also, this baby is not getting nutrients to all parts of its body. Selectively, some parts have overgrown and others have not grown at all. This type of growth of child is not good for its survival. The growth of main organ, ie., brain is very very less. So, this child has not come out of LKG/ UKG. This child likes some alphabets very much -- for example S, U, Z, N and C. It does not like the alphabet I at all. So, in its book, you can never find the letter I.
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Apr 27 2015 (20:51)
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Re# 1436708-101              
Which part of NK has grown with SWR?
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Apr 27 2015 (20:56)
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Re# 1436708-102              
UBL-NGP via GTL, KCG may be with less loco reversals. But it will not help North Karnataka.
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1. UBL is slip coach HQ. No proper original trains.
2. If you have some original trains, it will crawl at a speed less than passenger trains (UBL-LTT-UBL via BJP).
3. If you have a proper train in one direction, return will be at ghost time (UBL-LTT via MRJ is OK, but reverse is not OK).
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5. Almost all trains (more than 90%) are run for the convenience of some other state passengrs and not for UBL divn passenger's convenience (UBL-MAS spl)
6. Express trains slower than passenger trains (LTT-UBL via BJP)
Others can add some more such achievements !!

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Re# 1436708-129              
Add Shimoga and Hassan for development as terminals.
Hassan because of proximity to South Canara. Because of HMRDC, no trains are running in HAS-MAJN line. So, HAS can act as a terminal for many long distance trains/ passengers from other parts of KA as well as neighbouring states for visiting Dharmasthala/ Subrahmanya.
Shimoga is needed as it is major business centre and tourist base. Can act as a base for Jog Falls, Sringeri, Chikmagalur, etc.
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Apr 28 2015 (10:04)
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SR is father and SCR is mother. Father wants child to grow by itself but provides support and surrounds SWR at both ends (JTJ and MAQ). Mother has given her blood and flesh -- main revenue earner area (Ballari and surroundings upto VSG). In the process, mother lost some more area to CR also (MRJ to Pune). But, child is not showing any improvements at all. It ignores its own body (SWR). Takes care of requirements of parents to some extent, but always wants to go to distant places (Eastern side). I think child is not given proper lessons.
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Apr 28 2015 (10:13)
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Re# 1436708-133              
UBL-GR needs two LR (GDG and HG/ SUR). If you go via GTL, still 1 LR is reqd. Either way, you will pass through another zone to reach your own place.

Ahead of UBL, GR will get electrified. Will UBL digest this fact and give proper support? Will UBL be able to understand the requirements of GR and surrounding area?
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is getting attention now, which is good for GR/ WADI area. From GR to SWR HQ is 470 Kms, but GR to SCR HQ is just 220 Kms. Unable to understand why SWR wants to go there, when SCR can coolly handle the needs.

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6 Public Posts - Tue Apr 28, 2015

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Apr 28 2015 (11:08)
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If GR comes to SWR and a train has to be run from GR to MYS without touching any other zone, what SWR will do? From GR to Wadi, then Wadi to Gadag, Gadag to BAY, BAY to ASK, ASK to SBC and then to MYS. Don't be surprised, if Great planners pool their knowledge.
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Apr 28 2015 (12:20)
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If you take GR-UBL via Hotgi, BJP, Hotgi is in CR and LR is required. There is no straight bypass line which would be completely in control of SWR.
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Apr 28 2015 (12:25)
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What are the actions taken to scrap HMRDC?
Who has initiated such actions? SWR should take lead. They are the creators of the problem.
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Apr 28 2015 (12:31)
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Re# 1436708-165              
SR gets the blame for following:
1. Running trains directlly bypassing MAQ. Trains which were originating from MAQ lke Netravathi and Mangala are now running via MAJN.
2. Lot of trains run from Kerala towards Mumbai and further, but none of the trains have a separate quota for Mangaluru. One has to book ticket from Kasaragod or Kannur to Mumbai and board the train at MAJN. This is the problem.
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TT of all trains are planned to suit Kerala public and not at convenient timings for Mangaluru public. Be it GR, Netravathi, Mangala, Gujarat bound trains or any other train in Konkan route.
4. Daily CSTM-MAJN SF, which is a super hit in this region is not allowed to enter MAQ. By taking it to MAQ, SR will be doing a great service to MAQ public.
5. Not putting serious efforts to run trains from MAQ via KR, Hubli to HYB, BZA, etc.

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Apr 28 2015 (15:44)
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Re# 1436708-170              
Agree. If MAQ to MAS via Karnataka is with SR, then, you can have trains via HAS, SBC to MAS. The distance is less by around 200 Kms. SR will definitely find ways to scrap this useless HMRDC agreement and run trains from Tamil Nadu to Mangaluru, Udupi, Kollur, Murudeshwar and Gokarna. SR will run trains from North Kerala to Davanagere, Hubli, Shimoga, Ballari and further even to Hyderabad. Coordination will become better.
Even SCR will get better, if they get area upto Pune (MRJ-Pune as it was earlier). SCR can have entire east coast to west coast (Goa to Vizag) in single zone control.
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Apr 28 2015 (16:34)
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Re# 1436708-172              
As on date, it is with part of SUR divn, CR. Expected to move out of CR to SWR, but movement to SCR will be better, considering the geographical continuity, proximity to zonal HQ and the neglect shown by other regions of Karnataka towards GR area.
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Apr 29 2015 (13:34)
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Re# 1436708-175              
For SWR to permit, following conditions should be compulsorily fulfilled:
1. Should be a circuitous route.
2. Departure/ Arrival time should be at odd hours.
3. Should pass through either UBL or SBC/ YPR or both.
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Should run on totally inconvenient timings at all intermediate stations.
KCG-VSG is not fulfilling sl. no. 1 above. I am not clear whether it fulfilling sl. no.4. May be not. Hence, SWR rejected the proposal KCG-VSG via GTL. Hapless passengers can take Amaravathi and wait at GTL, or pressurise SCR to fulfill conditions 1 & 4.

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Apr 29 2015 (15:05)
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Re# 1436708-177              
So, one more condition is fulfilled. What about conditions 2 above? If it starts at VSG and KCG at midniight 0130 to 0430, it will fit perfectly in the rules.
But what you will do to meet condition 3 -- this route does not touch UBL or YPR??? So, this is doubtful.
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1 Public Posts - Wed Apr 29, 2015

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Apr 29 2015 (15:43)
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Re# 1436708-179               Past Edits
One great chance for SWR to prove themselves:
Start a train from KCG at some odd hours and run it via GTL, UBL and then take it to YPR, do a Loco reversal and take it via CBE, SRR to MAJN (of course not MAQ) and then to MAO.
SCR will be happy since the train start time is at midnight, and no need for rescheduling of their useful trains, SR is happy since it passes through TN and Kerala and SWR is happy since the alphabet U can be
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seen in the route map.

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Apr 29 2015 (16:18)
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Re# 1436708-183              
If it runs via HAS, MAJN, then it will become useful for coastal Karnataka people. Citing HMRDC, SWR will take the train via CBE, SRR. Also, to create problems for whoever travelling in such a train, SWR will bring the train to YPR, do a loco reversal and make it wait for minimum 1 hour and then run via BWT, TPT, SA, CBE, SRR, MAJN (should reach at convenient timings upto CAN and after CAN to VSG at odd hours ).
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Apr 29 2015 (16:50)
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Re# 1436708-185              
Your dream train will remain in dream only. If you get a train from SWR, it will end up something as explained above.
SWR has 2 sections from west coast/ konkan: One from MAJN-HAS and another from MAO-LD. Both routes have problems for running of passenger trains. Let them give the problematic section to someone else, instead of making people suffer for rly's inefficiencies. People are dreaming about Hubballi-Ankola route - which will become another HMRDC for north Karnataka.
This zone is unfit to run trains. They are good in cleaning
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Apr 29 2015 (16:51)
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Re# 1436708-186              
If it is via KWV, MRJ, LD, 2 LR will be required. If it is via GR, SUR,BJP, GDG, one LR.
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3 Public Posts - Wed Apr 29, 2015

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Apr 29 2015 (18:36)
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Re# 1436708-191               Past Edits
In Karnataka, till 2 decades back, we had only MG. Except MAS side. So, bringing direct trains from any BG section was not possible. So, blaming SR or SCR for that is not correct. Even Karnataka exp (earlier called KK) used to run via JTJ/ BZA side only. In the last 2 decades, things have changed. You have BG everywhere. SWR zone was formed in 2003 to take care of development / aspirations of this part of the country, by carving out from SR and SCR. But trains are not running according to the needs of public due to poor planning.
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After formation of SWR, in this 12 years, how many additional km of / new tracks were laid and put to use? (Do not count on GCs). Except 40 kms of Kadur-CMGR, no new track is laid and put to use. Delays in completing and inaugurating HRR-HPT is a bigger blunder.
2. When MAQ-SBC travellers are crying for trains, SWR wanted freight revenues and introduced HMRDC, which was not there in MG era when SR was handling this section. How this HMRDC agreement helps public?
3. MYS-HAS-ASK line remains totally under utilised. Trains from MYS are made to run via SBC. Why?
4. SBC, UBL and MYS were terminal stns and divl HQs even before SWR formation. In this 12 years, how many new terminal facilities were developed in SWR area? Zero. Because of this, no train can start/ end from any other station in SWR and compulsorily has to start from any one of the three divn HQs. Why no efforts were put to develop Hassan, Shivamogga, Ballari, Bijapur, Belagavi as terminals?
5. Chikjajur-Chitradurga - Ballari section does not get a proper train from SBC. Why? Is this line meant only for freight?
6. When you do not have proper express train to the cities, you have premium trains running in circuitous route displaying their might in front of your eyes. Why?
7. Sampark Kranti trains are supposed to run connect different parts of state to Delhi. But, in many cities of Karnataka, they do not stop. No one prevented SWR from providing stoppages for Karnataka Sampark Kranti within Karnataka state. Hardly 10 out of 30 districts get the benefit of SK trains. Why?
8. Any train from JTJ to DMM is required to pass via Bangalore outer -- KJM, YNK line and there is no other alternate line. Why SWR did not think in bigger prospective of linking Chintamani on Kolar - Chikballapur line to Madanapalli ? This 55 km line would have avoided congestion in this stretch and provided alternate shorter route to Tirupati and further north. Instead, SWR is struggling with YNK-GTL doubling.
9. Add pathetic TT planning and odd hours arrival/ departure to SWR's cap.
10. The moment one puts a request for a train, SWR thinks about how to run in circuitous route. Even Varanasi train and premium train to Katra are not spared. What is the benefit for travelling public if they pass through Ballari? What is the benefit for Ballari because of this train? Zero.
List can still get longer. Blaming other zones for poor connectivity between their regions and SWR is one thing. Proper planning of own house is another thing. Let us not mix up the issues and deviate.

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Apr 30 2015 (15:28)
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Re# 1436708-203              
Can become useful, if a bypass is built at MRJ or some kind of link at MRJ stn to enter MRJ-PUNE line between MRJ and Satara. This will avoid LR and many trains from BGM and KOP side can use this line.
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Apr 24 2015 (16:23)   16381/Pune - Kanniyakumari Express (PT)
 
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This train taking circuitous route. It can easily diverted via KPD-TNM-VM-VRI-TPJ-MDU-NCJ-CAPE...
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Apr 26 2015 (01:12)
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Earlier, there was a move to run a new train from TVC to Hyderabad via ERN, CBE, SA, KPD, RU, HX, RC and re-route this train via Konkan. Parallelly, there was a move to have a Pune-Coimbatore tri-weekly exp via SUR, GR, GTL, KJM.
If both can be done with proper TT/ coordination, then, all zones can agree for re-routing. Or else, this will affect more people in the intermediate section.
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Apr 26 2015 (17:02)
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KL to Pune passengers will travel by Poorna Exp which can take them to their destinations within 24 hours, whereas this South India tour train will take 50% more time and again at odd hours at Pune.
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Apr 26 2015 (17:07)
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Re# 1440942-9              
Again, this is a SR train. There is no point in running upto Mumbai. Can terminate at SUR. For Pune/ Mumbai passengers, the frequency of NCJ-CSTM via MDU,SA (4 days a week) and NCJ-CSTM via TPJ,CGL (twice a week) should be increased. Say a daily from TPJ-CSTM via CGL, RU and Slip coaches from TVC to ED/ SA for via MDU, SA train will take care of PGT, CBE, ED requirements.
Some realignment of routes is possible, if every thing goes on well.
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Apr 26 2015 (17:12)
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Re# 1440942-11               Past Edits
One daily TVC-HYB or SUR via ERN, CBE,RU,GTL, RC, one daily CAPE/NCJ-CSTM via MDU,SA,KJM and one daily from TPJ-CSTM via VM,RU can be run. There will not be any loss to anybody. In fact, many rakes are used for running just one train Jayanti Janata. Instead, this can get spread.
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Apr 26 2015 (17:22)
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Re# 1440942-13              
Volvo buses cover CBE-HYB in 16-17 hours. So, a daily or triweekly from CBE via KJM, GY, DHNE to SC to cover distance in 19-20 hours will be a big hit.
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Apr 27 2015 (20:53)
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Re# 1440942-15              
If you analyse SR trains, none of them from SR are ending in SWR territory except Bangalore/ Mysuru. But SWR runs trains upto CAPE and TVC, but this is not getting reciprocated. Nothing prevents SR from introducing CBE-HYB via KJM, DMM, DHNE.
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Apr 28 2015 (09:44)
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Re# 1440942-18              
If CBE is a problem, it can start from PGT/ PGTN. But divisional wars between SA and PGT will not allow this. If you mention PGT/ PGTN, they would like to start from MAQ or ERS and spoil the chances of CBE public.
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Apr 28 2015 (10:07)
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Re# 1440942-20              
MTP can be a terminal for south bound trains to avoid LR at CBE. MTP is a dead end of the rly network. For MTP person, he can go to Erode/ Tirupur in 1-1/2 hours to catch any long distance train. Investment in such a deadend stn will be a waste.
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Apr 28 2015 (11:12)
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Re# 1440942-22              
POY can be a good option, but it is in MDU divn. POY to CBE half is with PGT and balance with SA. So, PGT/ MDU divns will not agree for this. PGT would like to start from CLT/ CAN. MDU divn would like to start from PLNI via DG or from MDU itself quoting more data for MDU-HYB traffic. CBE will get zero in the whole process.
If you want to start a train from CBE, do it from CBE itself. There is no other option left. CBE is surrounded by borders of other divisions within next 30-40 kms.
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Apr 28 2015 (16:31)
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Re# 1440942-24              
From MTP, you can have trains via CBE to Madurai, Rameshwaram, Tutucorin, CAPE and Tenkasi. Also, one ONT to TVC via PGT, Ernakulam can be introduced on alternate days via Kottayam and via Alleppey.
If properly planned, one can have a train to Mumbai from MTP via CBE, SRR, MAQ and Konkan. This will connect Ooty to Kerala, coastal Karnataka, Goa and Konkan region. Will be a big hit also.
Trains to south originating from CBE towards PGT and POY can move to MTP and CBE can get new trains to SBC,
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Apr 28 2015 (16:50)
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Re# 1440942-27              
In CBE-MTP route, you have buses every 2 minutes from early morning to late night. If one 3-4 coach MEMU is given in this stretch, it can do wonders and free the road traffic also.
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Apr 28 2015 (17:32)
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Re# 1440942-29              
What is required is hourly passenger trains/ MEMU/ DEMU kind of trains which can operate without loco reversals. Long distance exp/ SF with SL and AC classes will not help this crowd. They need faster easier connectivity.
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Apr 28 2015 (17:56)
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Re# 1440942-31              
CBE-MTP & CBE-POY are not on the main lines, so there will not be any restriction on operating any number of MEMU/ DEMU kind of trains. But again, CBE is under SA. Think of SA as divl HQ not getting any such facilities, how can a stn get such facilities??
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Apr 29 2015 (12:18)
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Re# 1440942-33              
SA-ED-CBE and SA-DPJ-SBC are evergreen popular routes. But not getting tapped properly. Of course, SA-SBC is with SWR. But nothing prevents SA divn to run trains upto HSRA during day time, when the tracks are totally empty.
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Apr 30 2015 (15:04)
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Re# 1440942-35              
SA divn is in SR only. If SR wishes, they can run MS-SA rake one trip to HSRA and take it back to SA daily.
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